The DieBate: Obituary for Senator Joe Biden

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Pundit,



Here at PCT we are sad to report that Senator Joe Biden received mortal wounds from a Sarahcuda attack. An infamous gaffemeister and long winded blowhard, the Senator from the great state of Delaware will be sorely missed. But, news reports are that the Sarahcuda wasn't very satisfied with her appetizer and now is looking for the entree dish better known as Obamination.

Okay that was for CT, since it looks like his conspiracy theory may have had an inkling of truth to it. If he was right it isn't because he is so sm-u-rt, it is because he is paranoid and we know that only paranoid people can figure stuff like this out, lol. But, he was sweating it especially after posting about it. Maybe ole' Sun Tsu reached out across the ethereal planes and gave him a little Zen about the debate outcome. Good call CT, you dah man on this one.

Let's look at some of the comments fro No Quarter and PoliPundit, both of which were running open threads. I am taking the posters names off.

Polipunidt:

19. FINALLY!! It took Sarah to get after the Dems about the Freddie Fan debacle.

Comment by 10/2/2008 - 9:07 pm

37. Yessssssssssssssssssssssss

Talk straight to the American people!!!!

Comment by 10/2/2008 - 9:15 pm

60. Sarah just SLAUGHTERED Biden on the tax and economy. This is going well.

Comment by 10/2/2008 - 9:21 pm

199. What is it with Biden tugging at his collar. He looks very uncomfortable. The rollercoaster smile comes with a Morse code - is that - I believe he’s telegraphing S O S.

Comment by Email Homepage 10/2/2008 - 9:57 pm


NoQuarter, interesting note they had to shut down their commentary I am assuming because there was to much traffic about Sarahcuda.


Comment by 2008-10-02 20:16:26

I like how Palin just said:

“I might now answer the questions how you (Biden) or how the moderator wants me to answer them, but I’m going to talk straight to the American people”

I swear, I can see the contempt on Ifill’s face.

OmegaPundit interruption: If McCain's campaign is saved by one defining moment it was this comment. My predicition, this was her Ronald Reagan moment, again, if it pans out.

Comment by 2008-10-02 20:18:17

ooh, she just got him on the paying taxes is patriotic remark…haha

Comment by 2008-10-02 20:20:52

Go Sarah! She is doing awesome. Call the Commie out, baby… (fairness my a** - why work your butt off so that the welfare cases can benefit???)

OmegaPundit,

Whew!! That was a lot of copying and pasting. Well here is what Drudge had on his poll results.

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN

22% 9,842
PALIN

76% 34,323
NEITHER

2% 897

Total Votes: 45,062

I think we can say Sarahcuda-1 Plugs-0! Way to go Sarah, you did good, ma'am!


-OmegaPundit

"The last word on everything!"
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In the News: October 2nd-3rd, 2008

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CT

Today's headlines are brought to you by Drudge Report , The News Media Journal, & The Politico. These are some of the headlines from October 2nd, enjoy. More coming up once we time travel to the 3rd.
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Wachovia faced a ‘silent' bank run
Rick Rothacker and Kerry Hall, Charlotte Observer-On Friday, with its stock plunging 27 percent, Wachovia experienced a “silent run” on deposits, but the bigger worry for regulators was that other banks wouldn't provide the Charlotte bank with necessary short-term funding when it opened for business Monday, sources familiar with the situation told the Observer.

With Wachovia already looking for a merger partner, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., in consultation with other regulators, required the bank to reach a sale to Citigroup on Monday morning.
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This is why I am for private interests buying out the weaker of the herd. Understandably, there has to be a certain degree of government intervention, but not to the socialistic degree that the Congress and President have pushed. Although many have claimed this is the end of capitalism, I am not going to join the ranks of knee jerk reactionaries. It is way to early in the game to be crying that this is the death of free market capitalism, but it is definitely on life support.
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Aides Promise an Aggressive Palin in Debate

Juliet Eilperin, The Washington Post-< GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin plans to launch aggressive attacks against her Democratic opponent Joe Biden tonight, her campaign aides said, in order to remind voters of why she became popular in her home state of Alaska. "Governor Palin is eager for the opportunity to contrast her record of reform to the hollow rhetoric of a politician who has spent the bulk of his adult life inside the confines of Washington, DC," said Palin spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt. "Tonight will address a critical question; which is more relevant to the office of the vice-presidency -- real-life results or Washington double-speak?" Read more...
Well only a few hours away, I am saying no more on the topic other than it should be very interesting either way. This will either sink the McCain campaign or give them more than a fighting chance for the White House. I would not want to be Sarah Palin right now.

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Palin’s new plan: Go after Biden

Mike Allen, The Politico-ST. LOUIS — Sarah Palin plans to go on the attack in tonight’s debate, hitting Joe Biden for what she will call his foreign policy blunders and penchant for adopting liberal positions on taxes and other issues, according to campaign officials involved in prepping her for tonight’s showdown.

The Palin camp is projecting surprising self-confidence in the pre-debate hours, despite the vice presidential nominee’s uneven — and, at some points, peculiar — performances in recent television interviews, the officials say. Top advisers to John McCain privately say Palin’s recent CBS interview was a borderline disaster, especially since it played out in several segments over several days. Tonight will be different, they say. Read more...


If she is going to win keeping Joe Biden on the defense is the best tactic. It would fluster him and make him prone to his most notable feature, gaffing. But,I don't expect a blow out either way.

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Check back for updated information on the debate. Good luck to Sarah Palin and Joe Biden both. Give us a good one!

-CT

"Happy Hunting!"



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Dumbowit Failure on Thursday. Could They Be This Stupid?

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Pundit,




I gave CT the day off, he has been reading so much his eyes are buggin' out of his head and it was making him come up with all sorts of wild ideas. Well, I was more than obliged to pick up this post for Palin, the VPILF. I liked CT's little conspiracy theory about Schmidt, chief McCain campaign strategist, being a diabolical madman. Schmidt, according to CT, has Palin locked up in a cage and feedin' her raw meat and gunpowder, getting her mean for the debate.

Little off the wall CT, I must say. But here is a clown from the LA Times, Andrew Malcolm, that might agree with CT, just a little.
The upcoming downside for the Obama-Biden campaign is that its supporters became so flustered over Palin's surprisingly explosive popularity coming out of the GOP convention. They have so successfully mocked, derided and lowered expectations for Palin in Thursday night's VP debate that if she doesn't drool or speak in tongues, many millions still open to persuasion will be impressed. [1]

Well, Obamination definitely has a rep for thinking he can walk on water, especially when he is winning. Which according to the last Gallup as Ras. he is doing quite handily. But, the Dumbowits have made the exact mistake CT was talking about before, courtesy of Rove, the evil genius bent on world domination.
Al Gore's campaign made the exact same mistake going into the 2000 debates. So all Texas Gov. George W. Bush had to do was not lose. [1]

Looking at what this clown is saying, maybe my little brain child was close to right. Of course I am just an ignorant peasant so I agree with anything that sounds good. Malcom finsihed off his theory about Palin with this then went on about her parents.
In that sense, Democrats may have played right into a PR cul-de-sac. Biden, for instance, described Palin as merely better-looking than him. A far better communications strategy would have been to insincerely portray Palin with superlatives as a superwoman, making it harder, not easier, for her to impress. Too late now. [1]

I don't think CT got it all right about Schmidt having this great plan. I think that the McCain camp screwed up by being over protective of Palin and now realizes it. The lady is talented, not to mention hot, and to keep her leashed up is a sin. He also got it right about Obambi and his mindless minions being over confident. They might have played into McCain's hands with Palin, but I don't think it was by design, as CT thinks. One other thing that is more important, even if CT and Malcolm are correct, is that the Left has to be wrong about Palin and she has to deliver. No amount of over confidence or Biden making an ass out of himself with help her with that. Guess we will know the truth in a few days, can't wait!


-OmegaPundit

"The last word on everything."


[1] How Democrats set Sarah Palin up to 'win' Thursday's VP debate
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Sun Tsu Cain and the Art of VP Debating

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CT

At first I was not going to write this post, because quite frankly what I was thinking made no sense to me. Then thumbing through some old reading material I came across the Art of War, by mythical general, Sun Tsu. A particular quote jumped out at me, Sun Tsu speaking about strategic assessments, "A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective."

I have been puzzled by the shielding that Governor Palin has been receiving from the media by the McCain camp. After Dick Cheney was annouced as the Republican Vice President candidate he did five interviews in his first week. Palin has done three in about three weeks. Why? Was the Left correct about her being a boob and incompetent? Maybe they were right about her experience and intelligence level, this didn't make sense either.

This woman successfully ran against a very corrupt and somewhat powerful Republican establishment in Alaska and won. She managed a budget of some $11.7 billion and negotiated a very lucrative deal for a natural gas pipeline when no one else could. Bill Clinton has stated that he sees in her a great deal of "political intuition." Or maybe he just thinks she is hot, I dunno, it is Bubba we are talking about. Jokes aside, the evidence of her talent as well as her pragmatism and intelligence is there, she seemingly has it. Not to mention she scares the hell out of the Left.

I am only able to draw two conclusions, because of the media onslaught against her, maybe the McCain camp is purposefully protecting her and her family. Keeping her on message, with talking points and not allowing her to get into her feelings on matters and if this is what they are doing it is a grave mistake. Or, they are a little smarter than I am giving them credit for.

There is one other possibility and it is a very enormous stretch and maybe even hard to believe. Taking into account what Sun Tsu wrote on strategic assessment, could this be what the McCain camp is trying to accomplish? They are notorious risk takers, but those risks are always calculated, not rash. Sometimes they work out better than others, but they are usually successful. McCain's camp has twice been on the ropes and twice has comeback. So, why not?

By sequestering Palin and having her appear as naive and inexperienced in an interview is risky for perceptions sake. But it gives her distinct advantages she will need going against a masterdebator, yes that is a joke, like Joe Biden. First, interviews that are given prior to debates are used to gain insight into tactics and strategy, like a football team or a boxer uses. They can gain you and idea of how your opponent might play in a certain situation. Secondly, Steve Schmidt is a student of Karl Rove and Rove is notorious for using deception and feints in his political strategies. Thirdly, it would possibly make the Obama camp become over confident before the debate.

With that in mind, the Obama camp is known for dropping their guard when they think they have victory in their hands and whining when losing. Right now, advantage Obama, the stage is set for his victory. If they form a certain strategy for Palin and she comes out with something totally different I do not think Biden could handle it and would certainly be prone to losing his temper and gaffing up a storm. That would ensure a Palin victory which would definitely reignite McCain in the final stretch as well as keep Obama off base in the upcoming debates.

I realize there are alot of "ifs" with this hypothesis and it may be way off base. But, just in case I am right, I wanted to be able to put my name in the, "I told you so category." If I am wrong then I get the, "You are a moron category." One, I am sure that Opie would love to see me in.

CT
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Debating the Debate

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CT

Well the debate is over, the dust has settled, and the results from both sides are in. We will look at two websites from each corner of the ring and then try to and make an assesment on how this will effect the election.

First the Libs, from my favorite bunch of socialist loonies, the KosKids.
A lot of pundits and commenters and some Diarists are abuzz over why John McCain didn't look at Barack Obama even once during the debate Friday night.

Rude, say some. Arrogant, say some. Condescending and contemptuous, say others. Passive-aggressive outrage, say still others, a lack of eye contact meant as an insult to Obama - not a planned insult, but because McCain is just that kind of person who can't bear to think of others as equals, who was pissed off that this other person was even allowed on the same stage as him - a king, having to mingle with the commoners.

Probably, to some extent, all true. But none of those counts as the real reason.
The real reason is that every time Barack Obama says "...when I am President," John McCain knows in his heart that this will soon be true
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Arrogant, ccondescending, and contemptuous? Uuuuh, guys there was a debate on tonight. Maybe in between reciting mantras from the Communist Manifesto they could have realized their attention was required so they could have given some good socialist interpretation of events as they unfolded. Highly disappointing guys, you are getting fat and overbloated.

Fire Dog Lake did much better. They, unlike the National Enquirer..oops...I mean the Kos, at least tried to give some analysis.
McCain controlled the debate tonight. He came off as a brittle, grumpy, mean-spirited old coot, but on the economy -- which should have been Obama's strong suit -- McCain managed to divert the conversation to tax cuts and kept Obama off the kitchen table issues where he excels [2]

The good news? Well, McCain sounded bitter and looked hunched over and mean. He wasn't likeable, and most of the Monday morning quarterbacks on my teevee seemed to agree. Obama can definitely recover in the next debate -- he didn't have any kind of a major falter. [2]

Second article,
McCain might have arguably done a better technical job of debating and the transcript may look like a victory for him, but he came across horribly: brittle, old, condescending and downright mean. You wouldn't want to have beer with this guy, that's for sure. [2]

Now, on to their Conservative counterparts. First up, Michelled Malkin,
I’m giving it to McCain — and you know I’m a tough grader on him.

He was slow out of the gate — a broken record on earmarks and spending — but Obama failed to turn the bailout debacle against him. McCain hit his stride in the second half, schooling Obama on counterinsurgency, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and Russia.

McCain made no major soundbite-able gaffes. It was more a matter of a few missed opportunities for McCain than the commission of any major errors. Major omission of the night from McCain: Did he say a single word in defense of conservative principles and free-market economics?
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From Powerline,
Both campaigns have furiously spun last night's debate, and "who won" polls tell us nothing, so far, except about the readership of the web site or publication sponsoring the poll. Clearly neither candidate made a major blunder that has become a news story in itself, so the issue comes down to one of impression: which candidate made more sense and looked more Presidential to the majority of undecided voters. My guess is that by holding his own, Obama helped himself with a lot of fence-sitters. [4]

The reactions gauged are mostly typical of what you would expect from the supporters of each candidate, except for Powerline. That is the one I tend to agree with, for the most part.

John McCain won, no doubt about it, but it was not a "slam dunk." Stunningly, he almost did better on the economy than foreign policy, not that his display of international affairs was weak. But, McCain being the grizzled veteran in this arena was expected to hand Obama his ass. Mac did not deliver in that category.

McCain had more to lose than his weaker opponent, all Obama had to do was dance around the issues and in lawyerly fashion that is exactly what he did. There were minor moments when one candidate got the better of the other. But there were no definitive moments of substance that actually defined them positively or negatively.

So, the final analysis coming out of this is; McCain won but advantage Obama.

CT

[1] Daily Kos
[2] FireDogLake
[3] Michelle Malkin
[4] Powerline
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